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## [\[Solved\] Question: "import" v.s. "can-import"](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-question-import-v-s-can-import/992)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 16, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-question-import-v-s-can-import/992 "2018-11-16T01:51:41Z")

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Sometimes I see: // widget.js import './widget.less'; And other times I see: \<!-- widget.stache --\> \<can-import from="./widget.less" /\> What’s the difference and why do some people seem to prefer one over the other? …

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## [Google to pay JavaScript frameworks to implement performance-first code](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/google-to-pay-javascript-frameworks-to-implement-performance-first-code/999)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 18, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/google-to-pay-javascript-frameworks-to-implement-performance-first-code/999 "2018-11-18T17:46:50Z")

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Google to create $200,000 fund to sponsor the addition of “on by default” performance-related updates in popular JavaScript frameworks.

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## [Discuss: Stealing CSS](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/discuss-stealing-css/997)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 18, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/discuss-stealing-css/997 "2018-11-18T01:19:12Z")

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I see a lot of buzz around reducing blocking caused by CSS. I think this is an exciting area to think about. Would it be possible to do something similar to incremental rendering but for CSS? There are automated tools to…

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## [DoneJS Community Survey—November 2018](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-community-survey-november-2018/998)

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**Author:** [@chasen](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/chasen)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 18, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-community-survey-november-2018/998 "2018-11-18T03:32:08Z")

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We’re about to host a live stream about the next survey: New proposals for this survey: Introduce DOM diffing (1:31) Create mix-ins for drag, drop, & swipe events (5:13) Server-side stache templates that support …

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## [SSR (strategy:safe) doesn't show can-tag="loading-indicator"](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/ssr-strategy-safe-doesnt-show-can-tag-loading-indicator/984)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 18, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/ssr-strategy-safe-doesnt-show-can-tag-loading-indicator/984 "2018-11-18T01:26:54Z")

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Currently deployed to heroku, and SSR pages come down looking like this: The loading HTML that comes down from SSR looks like that: The loading HTML after reattachment looks like that: The loading HTML (after re…

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## [Integrating another observable library with canjs symbols](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/integrating-another-observable-library-with-canjs-symbols/994)

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**Author:** [@roemhildtg](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/roemhildtg)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 17, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/integrating-another-observable-library-with-canjs-symbols/994 "2018-11-17T05:30:56Z")

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xposted from gitter, I figured this would be a more appropriate place to discuss… Hi guys, I’ve got a side project I’ve dabbled with in the past and would like to try integrating more tightly with Canjs. Its using Openl…

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## [Pseudo Inverted Templates Techniques](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/pseudo-inverted-templates-techniques/996)

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**Author:** [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [November 16, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/pseudo-inverted-templates-techniques/996 "2018-11-16T16:31:57Z")

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This thread started a discussion of how to do inverted templates in donejs. Inverted templates (I think they are layouts in Ruby on Rails) allow “child” components/views/etc to alter the structure of parent components/v…

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## [How to save the last url of some "base" url](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/how-to-save-the-last-url-of-some-base-url/995)

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**Author:** [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 14, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/how-to-save-the-last-url-of-some-base-url/995 "2018-11-14T15:18:51Z")

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In a recent application, they wanted to store the last url within a page (or area) the user visited. This codepen shows how to do it: If you: click on Last Dogs Page and then select dog 1, then click Home Page, The…

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## [\[Solved\] Question: "{{scope.vm.prop}}" v.s. "{{this.prop}}" v.s. "{{prop}}"](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-question-scope-vm-prop-v-s-this-prop-v-s-prop/993)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [November 13, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-question-scope-vm-prop-v-s-this-prop-v-s-prop/993 "2018-11-13T17:34:17Z")

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What is the difference between these three: {{scope.vm.prop}} {{this.prop}} {{prop}} Which is most explicit, and which do you think is most noob-friendly? Sometimes I’m afraid there might be some magic going on in Can…

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## [Why is my Color Chooser's frame rate with Vue so much higher than with CanJS?](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/why-is-my-color-choosers-frame-rate-with-vue-so-much-higher-than-with-canjs/986)

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**Author:** [@code-read](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/code-read)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [November 10, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/why-is-my-color-choosers-frame-rate-with-vue-so-much-higher-than-with-canjs/986 "2018-11-10T02:04:05Z")

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If you compare frame rates of the following pages, you will understand my question: CanJS Color Chooser Vue Color Chooser Details: If you click either of the links above, a Color Chooser page should run in Demo Mode,…

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## [DoneJS Contributors Meeting – 2018-11-09](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2018-11-09/989)

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**Author:** [@chasen](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/chasen)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [November 9, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2018-11-09/989 "2018-11-09T16:24:39Z")

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Please add topics for discussion (and your status if you’re a contributor). Live stream at ~8:30am PT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po5NWBboo-M

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## [Errors trying to import sentryio into web application](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/errors-trying-to-import-sentryio-into-web-application/988)

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**Author:** [@ptc](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/ptc)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [November 8, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/errors-trying-to-import-sentryio-into-web-application/988 "2018-11-08T19:49:51Z")

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I am trying to import sentryio into my appliction using steal 0.16.10. However every method of importing I have tried results in some kind of error. I have successfully imported sentryio but this required I map out all o…

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## [\[Solved\] Only serve ./dist folder](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-only-serve-dist-folder/974)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-only-serve-dist-folder/974 "2018-10-26T05:00:06Z")

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Currently, bitcentivez (git) has the same problem as the original bitcentive, illustrated by this: http://bitcentive.herokuapp.com/test/test.js The web server is serving directories and files that should not be needed …

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## [How to turn off zones in DoneJS](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/how-to-turn-off-zones-in-donejs/983)

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**Author:** [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 1, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/how-to-turn-off-zones-in-donejs/983 "2018-11-01T17:50:22Z")

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Zones (aka can-zone) can be hard to debug. The fix is to turn off zones by setting your main in package.json to: index.stache!done-autorender/no-zone

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## [\[Solved\] Home page loads fine, inner pages do not (can-zone ignore)](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-home-page-loads-fine-inner-pages-do-not-can-zone-ignore/977)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 30, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-home-page-loads-fine-inner-pages-do-not-can-zone-ignore/977 "2018-10-30T03:12:09Z")

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Here is a screenshot of http://localhost:3030/contributors that shows a persistent error: There are different errors upon first load of that page (probably before SSR has cached the page or something): If you visit…

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## [DoneJS Contributors Meeting - 2018 - 10 - 26](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2018-10-26/981)

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**Author:** [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 26, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2018-10-26/981 "2018-10-26T15:46:21Z")

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Live Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR3N6rcHtkM Post your status and topics!

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## [David Walsh Blog - This bin needs a pro account](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/david-walsh-blog-this-bin-needs-a-pro-account/978)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 25, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/david-walsh-blog-this-bin-needs-a-pro-account/978 "2018-10-25T14:18:49Z")

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On this David Walsh Blog post: There is this issue: @matthewp would need a pro JS Bin account to fix this, apparently.

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## [Separating route data from your AppViewModel](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/separating-route-data-from-your-appviewmodel/980)

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**Author:** [@matthewp](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/matthewp)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [October 22, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/separating-route-data-from-your-appviewmodel/980 "2018-10-22T18:41:07Z")

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In done-autorender 2.3.0 it’s now easy to separate your route data from the rest of your Application ViewModel. This means no more serialize: false noise in your property definitions. This article will go over how you c…

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## [Upgrade to 3.13.1](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/upgrade-to-3-13-1/972)

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**Author:** [@nada](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/nada)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 18, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/upgrade-to-3-13-1/972 "2018-10-18T15:13:53Z")

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Hi all, I managed to resolve my issue with can-route from 7th of August by upgrading all packages. The downside: Two event related things formerly working in the html-file don’t do anything anymore. on:enter Typi…

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## [DoneJS Contributor Meeting 10/12/2018](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributor-meeting-10-12-2018/976)

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**Author:** [@matthewp](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/matthewp)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [October 12, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributor-meeting-10-12-2018/976 "2018-10-12T16:56:35Z")

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Please post any topics you’d like to discuss!

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## [Open Source Theory](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/open-source-theory/975)

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**Author:** [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [October 11, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/open-source-theory/975 "2018-10-11T16:40:51Z")

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I made a video on the goals of the CanJS, StealJS, DoneJS open source efforts and how those efforts are managed. https://www.bitovi.com/blog/open-source-theory Video: https://youtu.be/\_8Sz74FsQ7M Let me know what you t…

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## [Color Chooser Illustrates ViewModel Hierarchy Questions](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/color-chooser-illustrates-viewmodel-hierarchy-questions/938)

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**Author:** [@code-read](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/code-read)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [October 1, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/color-chooser-illustrates-viewmodel-hierarchy-questions/938 "2018-10-01T13:50:53Z")

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In Communication between "sibling" ViewModels - #6 by code-read, I said: Conceptually, I’m attempting to 1) build a series of similar HTML elements in a loop; and 2) listen and respond to changes and/or events occurrin…

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## [Preventing FOUC (Flash of unstyled content)](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/preventing-fouc-flash-of-unstyled-content/973)

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**Author:** [@jfleming](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/jfleming)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [October 5, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/preventing-fouc-flash-of-unstyled-content/973 "2018-10-05T21:28:47Z")

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The stealjs docs have a section for preventing FOUC by loading the bundle stylesheet in the head of index.html https://stealjs.com/docs/StealJS.guides.progressive\_loading.html While this works. It is causing the style…

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## [\[Solved\] TypeError: Cannot read property 'contains' of null](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-typeerror-cannot-read-property-contains-of-null/969)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-typeerror-cannot-read-property-contains-of-null/969 "2018-09-28T14:12:24Z")

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I’m having some trouble with SSR in an application I’m trying to use it in. The error I’m seeing is TypeError: Cannot read property 'contains' of null. It’s like SSR is trying to manipulate a DOM that is not there. I’m…

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## [10 months of survey results](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/10-months-of-survey-results/971)

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**Author:** [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/10-months-of-survey-results/971 "2018-09-28T02:50:09Z")

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Thanks everyone for filling out the surveys! Here’s what we’ve done in the last 10 months based on the community’s votes: Here’s what folks have voted on in the past 10 months. All but the last 3 have been accomplishe…

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## [\[Solved\] Struggling with CanJS packages between major releases](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-struggling-with-canjs-packages-between-major-releases/970)

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**Author:** [@leoj3n](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/leoj3n)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [September 27, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/solved-struggling-with-canjs-packages-between-major-releases/970 "2018-09-27T16:27:42Z")

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I’m using the can package, as opposed to individual deps themselves, which poses an issue when the deps of the can package become outdated. This very topic was discussed in the following contributors meeting: One prop…

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## [Integrating with Prismic.io](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/integrating-with-prismic-io/968)

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**Author:** [@Henst](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/Henst)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 20, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/integrating-with-prismic-io/968 "2018-09-20T15:24:26Z")

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Hi! Feels like I am missing something fundamental so hoping to be pushed in the right direction. I am looking to add prismic.io as a headless cms and was now just trying to connect according to their guide to be able t…

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## [Newbie - can.Model.extend](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/newbie-can-model-extend/964)

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**Author:** [@Sonny\_Torres](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/Sonny_Torres)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [September 19, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/newbie-can-model-extend/964 "2018-09-19T20:55:19Z")

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Filter= can.Control.extend({ init: function(){}, getCustomerSearch: function(data){ console.log(JSON.stringify(data)); }, getCompanyDetails: function(data){ console.log(JSON.stringify(data)); } },{}) var FilterSea…

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## [Using async functions and generators with StealJS](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/using-async-functions-and-generators-with-stealjs/966)

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**Author:** [@imaustink](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/imaustink)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 19, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/using-async-functions-and-generators-with-stealjs/966 "2018-09-19T20:46:30Z")

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When attempting to use async functions in my DoneJS project, the production build was throwing TypeError: define is not a function after importing babel-polyfill. The configuration outlined here solved my problem: https…

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## [VS Code Settings for can-stache tag auto-completion without a plugin](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/vs-code-settings-for-can-stache-tag-auto-completion-without-a-plugin/965)

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**Author:** [@Mike\_Mitchel](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/Mike_Mitchel)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 18, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/vs-code-settings-for-can-stache-tag-auto-completion-without-a-plugin/965 "2018-09-18T18:35:39Z")

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If you’re a VS Code user, this will help for tag auto-completion in can-stache files. In the latest version of VS Code, your settings.json file can be found by going to Preferences–\>Settings, then click the little … menu…

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