# DoneJS Contributors Meeting – 2016-12-02 **URL:** \ **Category:** DoneJS\ **Created:** [November 28, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480 "2016-11-28T16:48:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chasen](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/chasen/32/402_2.png) [@chasen](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/chasen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/1 "2016-11-28T16:48:26Z")
Please add topics for discussion (and your status if you’re a contributor). [Live Stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZpRjbmvNBc) In Progress Epic Status: - [Bitcentive MVP](https://github.com/donejs/bitcentive/issues/96) - `58 / 118` - [Feathers + CanJS](https://github.com/donejs/bitcentive/issues/83) - `85 / 122` - [Event Stream](https://github.com/donejs/donejs/issues/704) - `47 / 80` - [DoneJS 1.0](https://github.com/donejs/donejs/issues/703) - `10 / 383` - [DoneJS 1.0 site](https://github.com/donejs/donejs/issues/706) - `6 / 133` - [CanJS 3.0](https://github.com/canjs/canjs/issues/2576) - `195 / 302` - [StealJS 1.0](https://github.com/stealjs/steal/issues/865) - `199 / 239` - [2016-12 Developer Relations & Evangelism](https://github.com/donejs/donejs/issues/752) - `3 / 170` ---
**Author:** ![phillipskevin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/phillipskevin/32/102_2.png) [@phillipskevin](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/phillipskevin)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/2 "2016-12-02T14:32:46Z")
Topic proposal: [How to handle custom generators](https://github.com/donejs/generator-donejs/issues/148#issuecomment-263410649) ---
**Author:** ![obaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4bbf92/32.png) [@obaid](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/obaid)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/3 "2016-12-02T14:33:59Z")
Last Week: - Worked on bitcentive MVP - Some client work Next Week: - Finish Bitventive MVP ---
**Author:** ![justinbmeyer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/justinbmeyer/32/179_2.png) [@justinbmeyer](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/justinbmeyer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/4 "2016-12-02T14:50:29Z")
Last Week: - CanJS 3.0 release article - CanJS tech highlights - New site goes out today Next Week: - Bitovi retreat planning so not much OS other than publishing 3.0 release article. ---
**Author:** ![phillipskevin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/phillipskevin/32/102_2.png) [@phillipskevin](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/phillipskevin)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/5 "2016-12-02T15:23:10Z")
**Last week:** - Fixed can-fixture’s XHR to use getters/setters and not break [socket.io](http://socket.io) - Fixed issue in can-view-live list.js so adding/removing items will happen in the correct order - Fixing issue in can-stache so `foo[bar][baz]` will work **Next week:** - can-namespace ---
**Author:** ![matthewp](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/matthewp/32/77_2.png) [@matthewp](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/matthewp)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/6 "2016-12-02T15:24:22Z")
Last Week: - done-ssr 0.13.5 and 0.14.0-pre.2 - WebPack and Browserify fixes - Working on plugins configuration (so close!) Next Week: - Not sure. ---
**Author:** ![chasen](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/chasen/32/402_2.png) [@chasen](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/chasen)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/7 "2016-12-02T15:30:45Z")
Last week: - Submitted a PR to ‘Update the “Setting up CanJS” guide’: [https://github.com/canjs/canjs/pull/2812](https://github.com/canjs/canjs/pull/2812) - Submitted a PR “Second draft of the Technical Highlight’s Models section”: [https://github.com/canjs/canjs/pull/2837](https://github.com/canjs/canjs/pull/2837) - Submitted a PR to ‘Add webpack instructions to the “Setting up CanJS” guide’: [https://github.com/canjs/canjs/pull/2842](https://github.com/canjs/canjs/pull/2842) - Tested Browserify compatibility and filed an issue because `can-compilify` doesn’t work: [https://github.com/ccummings/can-compilify/issues/2](https://github.com/ccummings/can-compilify/issues/2) - Submitted a bunch of PRs for fixing various docs Next week: - CanJS user experience testing - [CanJS.com](http://CanJS.com) audit: [https://github.com/canjs/canjs/issues/2751](https://github.com/canjs/canjs/issues/2751) Topic suggestion: how to require multiple versions of the same package - Context: existence of [https://github.com/canjs/can-validate-legacy](https://github.com/canjs/can-validate-legacy) - Potential solution: [https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/5499#issuecomment-71089080](https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/5499#issuecomment-71089080) ---
**Author:** ![marshallswain](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/marshallswain/32/22_2.png) [@marshallswain](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/marshallswain)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/8 "2016-12-02T16:38:01Z")
Last Week: - Finished documenting can-connect-feathers - Fixed a bug in can-connect-feathers that prevent query params from hitting the server on `getList` - Added `feathers-authentication-popups` message handling & validation to `can-connect-feathers` - New prerelease of can-connect-feathers - Fixed sorting bug in Bitcentive with ^^^ Next week: - More Bitcentive - can-connect SSR support for Feathers ---
**Author:** ![chasen](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forums.bitovi.com/chasen/32/402_2.png) [@chasen](https://forums.bitovi.com/u/chasen)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.bitovi.com/t/donejs-contributors-meeting-2016-12-02/480/9 "2016-12-02T20:03:36Z")
Rough meeting notes: **Attendees:** @BigAB, @chasen, @ilyavf, @pYr0x, @justinbmeyer, @phillipskevin, @marshallswain, @matthewp, & @obaid **Discussed topics:** Directional shift with CanJS 3: - Previous misson: simple and efficient web framework for complex apps - New direction: handling the progressive march of technology enhancement - How do we make it so developers can deal with tech changes? – Make upgrading easier – Forward-compatibility: the code that you write will be valuable as possible over time – Open to experimentation: explore new ideas; enable mixin behavior; embrace decorators - First step: smaller, independent repositories – More isolation and packages - Question: what will 4.0 look like? – Answer: Justin will probably write a roadmap article - Concerns: people don’t like to upgrade, so they’ll rewrite instead; how long do apps stick around? – Upgrades have been hard, so if we make it easy then we’ll get more people to upgrade – Keep the current users happy! We want to continually increase our user base. – Some people don’t upgrade old code because of lack of test coverage – Opt to use native technologies from the browser; custom elements for components, etc. – Less of a need to completely rewrite if you follow best-practices Topic: same dependency at different versions - Problem with [the npm approach](https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/5499#issuecomment-71089080): duplicate loading of packages at different versions – Keep infrastructure modules very stable and as small as possible to combat that issue Topic: [custom generators](https://github.com/donejs/generator-donejs/issues/148#issuecomment-263410649) - Solutions are not mutually exclusive - Solution 1a could use a `templates.json` file or read from the filesystem - Codemods are more complex but allow for greater flexibility/transforms